Bug 15968 - WebKit stopped responding after using Flash at http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/
Summary: WebKit stopped responding after using Flash at http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: WebKit
Classification: Unclassified
Component: New Bugs (show other bugs)
Version: 528+ (Nightly build)
Hardware: Macintosh OS X 10.4
: P2 Normal
Assignee: Nobody
URL:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2007-11-13 05:37 PST by Graham Perrin
Modified: 2008-09-08 02:41 PDT (History)
0 users

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Attachments
point at which WebKit froze (77.13 KB, image/png)
2007-11-13 05:38 PST, Graham Perrin
no flags Details
comparable failure whilst using Firefox (218.49 KB, image/png)
2007-11-13 10:45 PST, Graham Perrin
no flags Details
sample Safari 10 10 (31.78 KB, text/plain)
2007-11-14 00:00 PST, Graham Perrin
no flags Details

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Description Graham Perrin 2007-11-13 05:37:38 PST
1) visited and used http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/flashmeeting.php?pwd=demo-demo

2) filed a related bug http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15967

3) added a PNG to that bug 15967

4) closed tab(s)

5) clicked in the address bar of the remaining (tab-less) window

6) manually truncated the URL to http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/

7) keyed (probably) Return

8) WebKit stopped responding.
Comment 1 Graham Perrin 2007-11-13 05:38:09 PST
Created attachment 17225 [details]
point at which WebKit froze
Comment 2 Graham Perrin 2007-11-13 05:42:39 PST
Open files and ports whilst WebKit was not responding: 

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Comment 3 Graham Perrin 2007-11-13 05:44:44 PST
Here's a tidier representation of the list of open files and ports whilst WebKit was not responding: 

http://pastie.textmate.org/117329

And a sample a few moments later: 

http://pastie.textmate.org/117330
Comment 4 Graham Perrin 2007-11-13 10:39:51 PST
The issue recurred whilst using Firefox so my next guess is that it's an issue with Flash, or with the flashmeeting.open.ac.uk site code. 

I wonder wheether the issue is aggravated by me trying to work through Adobe Flash Player Settings whilst video is broadcasting. 
Comment 5 Graham Perrin 2007-11-13 10:45:05 PST
Firefox open files and ports, and sample, at time of issue: 

http://pastie.textmate.org/117432 and http://pastie.textmate.org/117433
Comment 6 Graham Perrin 2007-11-13 10:45:44 PST
Created attachment 17230 [details]
comparable failure whilst using Firefox
Comment 7 Graham Perrin 2007-11-13 10:49:27 PST
Ignore comments 4, 5 and 6. They belong with bug 15967. 

I do wish that this Bugzilla would not automatically advance to a different ticket :-(

Thoroughly confused now. 
Comment 8 David Kilzer (:ddkilzer) 2007-11-13 21:06:01 PST
Thanks for the bug report, Graham.

Could you run "sample Safari 10 10" from a Terminal window when Safari hangs, then post the file (probably written to /tmp/) to this bug?

Comment 9 Graham Perrin 2007-11-13 23:58:51 PST
Refining this: 

1) http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/

2) browsed to the demo
http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/flashmeeting.php?pwd=demo-demo

3) as I entered the meeting (and video began) a dialogue (Mac OS?) presented re: Bluetooth audio failure, which is curious because I can't think of *anywhere* where that preference may be set; although I may have preferred a Bluetooth headset at some point, to the best of my knowledge I long ago reverted all preferences to (MacBook Pro) built-in microphone and speakers. 

4) right-click (possibly control-click) the Flash area to present Adobe Flash Player Settings

5) close the settings window immediately without reviewing/changing anything

6) fine so far

7) started/stopped broadcasting once, maybe twice, maybe three times

8) probably set the state to _not_ broadcast before attempting to navigate away 

9) manually truncated the URL to http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/

10) keyed (probably) Return

11) according to Dock etc. WebKit was still responding, in fact it stopped responding. 

12) sample Safari 10 10 

I'll attach the sample to this bug. 

---

Factors that may be relevant: 

A) using Saft, 9.x, I can't tell the version from Finder but AFAIR I followed a hint from macosxhints.com to have Saft enable itself in Safari 3.x beta/WebKit.

B) using PithHelmet 2.7 (78). 

C) FLVR present (I purchased it AFAIR at discount prior to 1.0 release) but it's a long time since I tried to use it, it seems I currently have an expired demo present. 

I'll attach a System Profiler report. 
Comment 10 Graham Perrin 2007-11-14 00:00:14 PST
Created attachment 17262 [details]
sample Safari 10 10
Comment 11 Graham Perrin 2007-11-14 00:13:43 PST
> I'll attach a System Profiler report. 

http://www.box.net/shared/6yleecavjg for the 2.1 MB report. 
Comment 12 David Kilzer (:ddkilzer) 2007-11-14 06:37:21 PST
(In reply to comment #9)
> Factors that may be relevant: 
> 
> A) using Saft, 9.x, I can't tell the version from Finder but AFAIR I followed a
> hint from macosxhints.com to have Saft enable itself in Safari 3.x beta/WebKit.
> 
> B) using PithHelmet 2.7 (78). 
> 
> C) FLVR present (I purchased it AFAIR at discount prior to 1.0 release) but
> it's a long time since I tried to use it, it seems I currently have an expired
> demo present. 

Saft and PithHelment are known to cause all kinds of issues.  Please disable/remove them, then try to reproduce this issue.

I'm not sure if FLVR would cause an issue, but it's probably best to remove it to eliminate it as a potential cause.

Comment 13 Graham Perrin 2007-11-15 05:50:24 PST
(In reply to comment #12)

> Saft and PithHelment are known to cause all kinds of issues.  Please
> disable/remove them, then try to reproduce this issue.
> 
> I'm not sure if FLVR would cause an issue, but it's probably best to remove it
> to eliminate it as a potential cause.

Will do. 

In the meantime 
http://pastie.textmate.org/118318 shows permissions repaired after upgrading from 10.4.10 to 10.4.11 -- amongst other things,  

> User differs on ./Library/Internet Plug-Ins/Flash Player.plugin/Contents/MacOS, should be 0, owner is 19236

> Permissions differ on ./Library/Internet Plug-Ins/Flash Player.plugin/Contents/MacOS, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxr-xr-x 

but I can't guess whether group writeability would have been a factor. 
Comment 14 Ian Ragsdale 2008-09-08 02:41:53 PDT
I'm seeing a similar issue, and don't have any sort of modifications to Safari installed, although my Flash install is a debug version, not the normal version. 

I haven't been using the site listed in the original report, but I have seen it on Hulu and Youtube. It just started happening since I installed the debug version of flash, and has been happening somewhat regularly. Safari has actually been going into "uninterruptible wait" mode according to ps, and even a kill -9 won't stop it.