Bug 25154

Summary:	WebKit should blacklist Adobe SVG Viewer plugins to prevent confusion
Product:	WebKit	Reporter:	jay <jay>
Component:	SVG	Assignee:	Nobody <webkit-unassigned>
Status:	RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Severity:	Normal	CC:	ap, eric, jeffschiller, zimmermann
Priority:	P2	Keywords:	HasReduction
Version:	528+ (Nightly build)
Hardware:	Mac
OS:	OS X 10.5
URL:	http://www.openicon.org/webgo-server/safari-test.svg

Description jay 2009-04-13 00:37:45 PDT

ensure ASV is intstalled, perhaps for another browser.
/Library/Internet Plug-Ins

various issues arise such as:
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25148

parity Opera & Mozilla
which for this testcase at least do not use ASV to display

Comment 1 Eric Seidel (no email) 2009-04-13 14:49:16 PDT

I don't think this is a bug.  If you install a plugin, you suffer the consequences. ;)

We could just entirely refuse to load ASV.  Maybe we should...

Comment 2 Mark Rowe (bdash) 2009-04-13 16:01:15 PDT

I think we should refuse to load it.  At this point it serves no purpose but to cause confusion.

Comment 3 Eric Seidel (no email) 2009-04-13 16:12:07 PDT

Ok.  We should refuse to load any version 6.x and below.  And maybe if Apple/Google has some Adobe contact we should tell them that we're doing that. :)

I suspect we already have an NPAPI plugin blacklist somewhere.

Comment 4 jay 2009-04-13 23:19:02 PDT

to be clear, I installed asv for internet explorer only...
(I use different browsers, not only for testing, but because their quirks are still a real pain.)

this seems perfectly reasonable, and I can see no obvious workaround.

why not raise an advice dialogue for asv6 if there is a need to use it?

Comment 5 Mark Rowe (bdash) 2009-04-14 01:17:00 PDT

(In reply to comment #3)
> Ok.  We should refuse to load any version 6.x and below.  And maybe if
> Apple/Google has some Adobe contact we should tell them that we're doing that.
> :)

Adobe SVG for Mac OS X was last updated in late 2001.  If Adobe was interested in us continuing to  load this plug-in then I'm sure they would have updated it since then.

> I suspect we already have an NPAPI plugin blacklist somewhere.

A better solution would be to prevent any plug-in from claiming the SVG MIME type, in a similar fashion to how we prevent plug-ins from claiming HTML.

Comment 6 Alexey Proskuryakov 2009-04-14 02:42:42 PDT

(In reply to comment #5)
> Adobe SVG for Mac OS X was last updated in late 2001.  If Adobe was interested

What are users interested in? Does Google Analytics work with other SVG implementations now?

Generally speaking, any semi-mainstream site using SVG would necessarily standardize on Adobe SVG regardless of its age or other qualities, because that's the only way to get SVG in IE, as far as I know.

Comment 7 Nikolas Zimmermann 2009-04-14 05:49:52 PDT

(In reply to comment #6)
> (In reply to comment #5)
> > Adobe SVG for Mac OS X was last updated in late 2001.  If Adobe was interested
> 
> What are users interested in? Does Google Analytics work with other SVG
> implementations now?
> 
> Generally speaking, any semi-mainstream site using SVG would necessarily
> standardize on Adobe SVG regardless of its age or other qualities, because
> that's the only way to get SVG in IE, as far as I know.
No, there's Renesis nowadays, which can be used to get SVG in IE.
See http://www.examotion.com/.

It's much faster then ASV, in all aspects. I don't know if it's widely used up until now, though. It's relatively new.

Have a nice day,
Niko