9515 2006-06-20 01:29:58 -0700 Safari lies. Reports itself as Mozilla, Gecko and KHTML too. 2006-06-20 12:57:48 -0700 1 1 1 Unclassified WebKit Page Loading 420+ Mac OS X 10.4 RESOLVED WONTFIX P2 Normal --- 1 nickshanks webkit-unassigned oldest_to_newest 46414 0 nickshanks 2006-06-20 01:29:58 -0700 I don't think Safari should claim to be anything other than Safari. In particular, it shouldn't start with "Mozilla/". I realise that this may break the odd site here and there, but if they are browser sniffing I most likely don't want to read the contents anyway. It's time to assert conformance and good behaviour on the web by not having sloppy user agents. If you agree, apply this patch to your local builds. I don't expect it to get into ToT though. 46415 1 8930 nickshanks 2006-06-20 01:30:54 -0700 Created attachment 8930 Better User-Agent headers 46416 2 8930 hyatt 2006-06-20 01:41:00 -0700 Comment on attachment 8930 Better User-Agent headers I belive every single browser has Mozilla/ at the start. That is historical and is used all over the Web. I don't think we can dump that. We also can't dump the (KHTML, like Gecko) portion, since that breaks numerous DHTML menus and frameworks. This isn't something we like, but it also isn't optional. We have to work with the real world Web. 46417 3 mjs 2006-06-20 01:42:18 -0700 What Dave said. Even IE claims to be Mozilla. 46430 4 nickshanks 2006-06-20 09:26:33 -0700 Well Opera uses "Opera/9.00 (Macintosh; PPC Mac OS X; U; en)" so :-P 46437 5 ggaren 2006-06-20 10:15:52 -0700 That's not entirely accurate. Opera may use "Opera" by default, but my understanding is that it masquerades as other browsers (using their exact UA strings -- much more extreme than just "Mozilla/...") on many sites that would break otherwise. 46439 6 nickshanks 2006-06-20 12:27:55 -0700 So, it has a hard-coded list of sites to lie to? Well I could live with something like that in Safari. Maybe even in a text file the user can edit somewhere in */Application Support/Safari/ ? I mostly posted this for people to download and apply to their own builds, so I'm not that bothered by the review-, honestly :) 46440 7 ap 2006-06-20 12:57:48 -0700 To use a non-standard user agent, one can just set a Safari preference: defaults write com.apple.Safari CustomUserAgent "MyBrowser/1.0 (NewtonOS 10.4.7; en-US-blonde)" Disclaimer: I haven't tested this myself :) 8930 2006-06-20 01:30:54 -0700 2006-06-20 01:41:00 -0700 Better User-Agent headers ua.diff text/plain 1287 nickshanks SW5kZXg6IFdlYktpdC9XZWJWaWV3L1dlYlZpZXcubQo9PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09Ci0tLSBXZWJLaXQvV2Vi Vmlldy9XZWJWaWV3Lm0JKHJldmlzaW9uIDE0ODg5KQorKysgV2ViS2l0L1dlYlZpZXcvV2ViVmll dy5tCSh3b3JraW5nIGNvcHkpCkBAIC05Niw3ICs5Niw3IEBACiAjaW1wb3J0IDxXZWJDb3JlL1dl YkNvcmVUZXh0UmVuZGVyZXIuaD4KIAogI2lmIF9fcHBjX18gfHwgX19wcGM2NF9fCi0jZGVmaW5l IFBST0NFU1NPUiAiUFBDIgorI2RlZmluZSBQUk9DRVNTT1IgIlBvd2VyUEMiCiAjZWxpZiBfX2kz ODZfXyB8fCBfX3g4Nl82NF9fCiAjZGVmaW5lIFBST0NFU1NPUiAiSW50ZWwiCiAjZWxzZQpAQCAt MjAwMiwxMSArMjAwMiw5IEBAIE5TX0VOREhBTkRMRVIKICAgICBOU1N0cmluZyAqYXBwbGljYXRp b25OYW1lID0gX3ByaXZhdGUtPmFwcGxpY2F0aW9uTmFtZUZvclVzZXJBZ2VudDsKIAogICAgIGlm IChbYXBwbGljYXRpb25OYW1lIGxlbmd0aF0pIHsKLSAgICAgICAgdXNlckFnZW50ID0gW05TU3Ry aW5nIHN0cmluZ1dpdGhGb3JtYXQ6QCJNb3ppbGxhLzUuMCAoTWFjaW50b3NoOyBVOyAiIFBST0NF U1NPUiAiIE1hYyBPUyBYOyAlQCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvJUAgKEtIVE1MLCBsaWtlIEdlY2tvKSAl QCIsCi0gICAgICAgICAgICBsYW5ndWFnZSwgc291cmNlVmVyc2lvbiwgYXBwbGljYXRpb25OYW1l XTsKKyAgICAgICAgdXNlckFnZW50ID0gW05TU3RyaW5nIHN0cmluZ1dpdGhGb3JtYXQ6QCIlQCAo TWFjaW50b3NoOyBVOyAiIFBST0NFU1NPUiAiIE1hYyBPUyBYOyAlQCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvJUAi LCBhcHBsaWNhdGlvbk5hbWUsIGxhbmd1YWdlLCBzb3VyY2VWZXJzaW9uXTsKICAgICB9IGVsc2Ug ewotICAgICAgICB1c2VyQWdlbnQgPSBbTlNTdHJpbmcgc3RyaW5nV2l0aEZvcm1hdDpAIk1vemls bGEvNS4wIChNYWNpbnRvc2g7IFU7ICIgUFJPQ0VTU09SICIgTWFjIE9TIFg7ICVAKSBBcHBsZVdl YktpdC8lQCAoS0hUTUwsIGxpa2UgR2Vja28pIiwKLSAgICAgICAgICAgIGxhbmd1YWdlLCBzb3Vy Y2VWZXJzaW9uXTsKKyAgICAgICAgdXNlckFnZW50ID0gW05TU3RyaW5nIHN0cmluZ1dpdGhGb3Jt YXQ6QCJBcHBsZVdlYktpdC8lQCAoTWFjaW50b3NoOyBVOyAiIFBST0NFU1NPUiAiIE1hYyBPUyBY OyAlQCkiLCBzb3VyY2VWZXJzaW9uLCBsYW5ndWFnZV07CiAgICAgfQogCiAgICAgX3ByaXZhdGUt PnVzZXJBZ2VudCA9IFt1c2VyQWdlbnQgcmV0YWluXTsK