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    <bug>
          <bug_id>157926</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2016-05-19 15:11:14 -0700</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Remove applet support</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2022-07-05 13:57:43 -0700</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>WebKit</product>
          <component>DOM</component>
          <version>Safari 9</version>
          <rep_platform>Unspecified</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Unspecified</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>DUPLICATE</resolution>
          <dup_id>218677</dup_id>
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>Normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Domenic Denicola">d</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Nobody">webkit-unassigned</assigned_to>
          <cc>ap</cc>
    
    <cc>cdumez</cc>
    
    <cc>darin</cc>
    
    <cc>emilio</cc>
    
    <cc>eoconnor</cc>
    
    <cc>gyuyoung.kim</cc>
    
    <cc>jonlee</cc>
    
    <cc>koivisto</cc>
    
    <cc>pieter.breugelmans</cc>
    
    <cc>rniwa</cc>
    
    <cc>sam</cc>
          

      

      

      

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          <long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>1194996</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Domenic Denicola">d</who>
    <bug_when>2016-05-19 15:11:14 -0700</bug_when>
    <thetext>Per discussions in https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/454 we&apos;re trying to see if other browsers are willing to follow Chrome&apos;s lead and remove support for &lt;applet&gt;. So far it seems like Edge is in favor as well.

Concretely:

- Do *not* change the parsing rules for &lt;applet&gt;
- Remove HTMLAppletElement
- Make document.applets always return an empty HTMLCollection (even if there are &lt;applet&gt; elements in the document).

Would WebKit be interested in this change?

As a bonus, you&apos;d get to close a *bunch* of open issues: https://bugs.webkit.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=applet&amp;list_id=1805197</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>1194998</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Domenic Denicola">d</who>
    <bug_when>2016-05-19 15:18:04 -0700</bug_when>
    <thetext>After doing further spec survey, I added these additional changes:

- Remove applet from document.all
- Remove applet from the Document&apos;s named properties collection
- Remove applet from the Window&apos;s named properties collection
- Remove applet attributes align=&quot;&quot;, hspace=&quot;&quot;, vspace=&quot;&quot;, width=&quot;&quot;, and height=&quot;&quot; presentional behavior</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>1283226</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Chris Dumez">cdumez</who>
    <bug_when>2017-03-03 13:20:15 -0800</bug_when>
    <thetext>Does anyone have any opinion on this?</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>1283248</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Sam Weinig">sam</who>
    <bug_when>2017-03-03 14:10:01 -0800</bug_when>
    <thetext>I&apos;d want data on how much it is used in Safari before making a call. In the past, there have been some big users of Java in Safari on the Mac, so it&apos;s not an obvious call to me.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>1337572</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Ryosuke Niwa">rniwa</who>
    <bug_when>2017-08-10 13:53:07 -0700</bug_when>
    <thetext>I just checked the internal statistics, and Java is still used in a significant proportion of users so I don&apos;t think we&apos;re dropping this feature anytime soon given Safari is probably the only browser on Mac that supports Java at this point.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>1386483</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Emilio Cobos Álvarez (:emilio)">emilio</who>
    <bug_when>2018-01-06 05:31:16 -0800</bug_when>
    <thetext>Just a status update here:

 * Gecko removal: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1279218 (shipped in FF56)
 * Spec removal: https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/1399
 * Chromium removal: https://crbug.com/470301 (shipped a ton ago)
 * Edge bug (not sure if they have removed or not): https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/issues/11946645/

I&apos;m happy to write a patch for this if WebKit&apos;s position on this removal changes.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>1386485</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="Ryosuke Niwa">rniwa</who>
    <bug_when>2018-01-06 06:35:34 -0800</bug_when>
    <thetext>There is no consensus to remove this feature from WebKit at this moment.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>1880788</commentid>
    <comment_count>7</comment_count>
    <who name="Sam Sneddon [:gsnedders]">gsnedders</who>
    <bug_when>2022-07-05 13:57:43 -0700</bug_when>
    <thetext>

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 218677 ***</thetext>
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