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    <bug>
          <bug_id>145879</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2015-06-11 05:23:35 -0700</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>AX: &lt;abbr&gt; tag does not expose title= information to VO</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2025-08-27 16:34:10 -0700</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>WebKit</product>
          <component>Accessibility</component>
          <version>528+ (Nightly build)</version>
          <rep_platform>All</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>NEW</bug_status>
          <resolution></resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>InRadar</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>Normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Derk-Jan Hartman">hartman.wiki</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Nobody">webkit-unassigned</assigned_to>
          <cc>jcraig</cc>
    
    <cc>tomac</cc>
    
    <cc>webkit-bug-importer</cc>
          

      

      

      

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    <commentid>1101259</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Derk-Jan Hartman">hartman.wiki</who>
    <bug_when>2015-06-11 05:23:35 -0700</bug_when>
    <thetext>https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/abbr

Testcase:
http://jsfiddle.net/TheDJ/768y7npt/

At the very least I would expect Safari+VO, when it settles on the element, to read the title= content, like it does for other elements. Even better would be if it would pronounce something like: &quot;Abbreviation: HTML for Hyper Text Markup Language&quot; on the very first time it would encounter the abbreviation.

Currently it does neither.</thetext>
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    <commentid>1101260</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Radar WebKit Bug Importer">webkit-bug-importer</who>
    <bug_when>2015-06-11 05:23:51 -0700</bug_when>
    <thetext>&lt;rdar://problem/21337783&gt;</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>1917192</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Derk-Jan Hartman">hartman.wiki</who>
    <bug_when>2022-12-07 05:09:54 -0800</bug_when>
    <thetext>Rechecked this 7,5 years later, macOS 13.0.1 and Safari 16.1 unfortunately still do not support the abbr. tag.</thetext>
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    <commentid>1985860</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Derk-Jan Hartman">hartman.wiki</who>
    <bug_when>2023-10-18 07:04:35 -0700</bug_when>
    <thetext>This too seems to work now in Safari 17 with macOS 14.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/abbr
Ashok&apos;s joke made me &lt;abbr title=&quot;Laughing out loud&quot;&gt;LOL&lt;/abbr&gt; big time.

is now read by VO and Safari as:
Ashok&apos;s joke made me LOL big time. Laughing out loud, big time.</thetext>
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    <commentid>1986116</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Derk-Jan Hartman">hartman.wiki</who>
    <bug_when>2023-10-19 04:12:12 -0700</bug_when>
    <thetext>Nvmd. false hope. It seems LOL is some sort of hard coded value in VoiceOver, just as no. is.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>2139200</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="James Craig">jcraig</who>
    <bug_when>2025-08-27 16:34:10 -0700</bug_when>
    <thetext>FWIW, Gecko&apos;s implementation (expanding to the label by default) seems like worse behavior in terms of being overly verbose.

I recall title (when not used as part of the label computation) was exposed as AXHelp; aka the Help tag. 

It&apos;s not currently exposing AXHelp, so that&apos;s a bug... possibly a regression if my memory is accurate. 

But the AXHelp fix should make this available automatically after a pause, or on-demand with the &quot;Read Help Tag&quot; command (VO+Shift+H)</thetext>
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